Strict Standards: Non-static method Flyspray::absoluteURI() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/constants.inc.php on line 26 Deprecated: mysql_connect(): The mysql extension is deprecated and will be removed in the future: use mysqli or PDO instead in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 353 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::val() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/header.php on line 40 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::num() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/header.php on line 41 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::val() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 32 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::num() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 32 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::num() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/header.php on line 43 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::val() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 32 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::num() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 32 Deprecated: Non-static method Flyspray::setCookie() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.project.php on line 40 Strict Standards: Non-static method Flyspray::startReminderDaemon() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Non-static method Flyspray::get_tmp_dir() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.flyspray.php on line 660 Strict Standards: Non-static method Flyspray::remote_request() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.flyspray.php on line 671 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::enum() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 20 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::val() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 37 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::enum() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 37 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Req::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 26 Strict Standards: Non-static method Cookie::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 33 Strict Standards: Non-static method Get::val() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/index.php on line 41 Strict Standards: Non-static method Get::has() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.gpc.php on line 100 Warning: Cannot modify header information - 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FS# Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 14 9 - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 14 Réflexion sur les sauts de ligne

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Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 28 Dernière édition par Otto Grimwald (farvardin) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 29 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 lundi, 11 juin 2007, 16:38 GMT
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Un détail qui me gène depuis longtemps dans de nombreuses fictions intéractives "amateur" (par opposition par exemple aux productions d'infocom qui n'ont pas ce problème), c'est la gestion des sauts de ligne.

Normalement, on devrait avoir des espacements de ce type :

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>l
Deck Nine
This is a featureless corridor similar to every other corridor on the ship. It curves away to starboard, and a gangway leads up. To port is the entrance to one of the ship's primary escape pods. The pod bulkhead is closed.

>e
Reactor Lobby
The corridor widens here as it nears the main drive area. To starboard is the Ion Reactor that powers the vessel, and aft of here is the Auxiliary Control Room. The corridor continues to port.

Ensign Blather, his uniform immaculate, enters and notices you are away from your post. "Twenty demerits, Ensign Seventh Class!" bellows Blather. "Forty if you're not back on Deck Nine in five seconds!" He curls his face into a hideous mask of disgust at your unbelievable negligence.

>talk to ensign
Blather shouts "Speak when you're spoken to, Ensign Seventh Class!" He breaks three pencil points in a frenzied rush to give you more demerits.

"I said to return to your post, Ensign Seventh Class!" bellows Blather, turning a deepening shade of crimson.

>
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Or, on voit souvent ça :
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>e

Un sentiment indicible m'invitait à rester plus encore en ce lieu étrange, même si j'avais la trouble impression que je n'y rencontrerais que l'impie et la folie.


>
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(une ligne en trop avant, une ligne en trop après).



Ou encore cela :
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Avait-elle été là depuis le début ? Je voulais ignorer la réponse que malgré moi je croyais connaître.
>
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(manque une ligne après)



ou cela
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Le long de la rivière.

Voici où nous mènent nos pas, lorsqu'on les confie à nos pensées dérivantes...

Las d'un voyage où seules les parts obscures de mon imagination en étaient les étapes, je me trouvai malgré moi loin de tout, sur les rives d'un fleuve charriant des eaux sombres vers un Océan dont la
rumeur saline me parvenait indistinctement.


Échouée comme un animal agonisant, une roulotte colorée faisait face à la rive. De l'intérieur montaient des volutes parfumées aux fragrances évocatrices.

>
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(une ligne en trop à la fin, et pour moi une ligne en trop aussi avant le dernier paragraphe [Edit : ah non en fait]).




Voilà, le débat est lancé. Je sais que ce n'est pas simple à gérer, que dans certains cas qu'on renvoie rfalse ou rtrue la nécessité d'ajouter un saut de ligne n'est pas la même, mais il m'apparaît très important dans cette oeuvre collective de nous tenir à une règle commune pour la gestion des sauts de ligne.
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Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 254 La raison de la clôture est:   Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 254 Corrigé
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 256 Commentaires supplémentaires de clôture:   Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 256 on essayera de faire attention à l'avenir...
La plupart des mauvais sauts semblent corrigés.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Otto Grimwald (farvardin) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 dimanche, 29 avril 2007, 15:14 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 au niveau du premier espace, juste après la commande et juste après le titre d'un lieu, il ne me choque pas, bien au contraire. Je crois que là on ne peut rien faire car c'est codé dans Inform (correction : non, en fait je vois qu' "inconsciemment", sur mes parties en tout cas, j'avais rajouté un tel retour à la ligne en début de description). Je trouve d'ailleurs que cela rend mieux que dans l'exemple d'infocom car c'est plus aéré. Pour les doubles espaces, cela ne me dérange pas spécialement, cela doit arriver lorsqu'il y a plus que deux ^^ .Bien entendu, cela doit être évité autant que possible lors de la rédaction, sauf si cela est explicitement voulu par l'auteur pour certains effets (en ce cas il faudrait plutôt tabler sur un passage de 4 ou plus de lignes pour mieux marquer le coup). Pour donner l'exemple je viens de corriger ceux que je pouvais dans mes parties.
Par contre ce qui est vraiment horrible c'est lorsqu'il manque une ligne avant le prompt, là c'est carrément trop moche. De façon générale, il faut donc éviter les doubles espaces, sauf si on n'est pas certains que d'un autre côté, suivant les commandes du joueur, cela ne risque pas d'aboutir à une ligne qui manque.

(ps : dans le dernier ex. donné, ok pour la double ligne, mais en quoi tu vois qu'il y a une ligne en trop à la fin ? Sans retour à la ligne on a la dernière phrase qui se colle au prompt non ?)
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Samuel Verschelde (stormi) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 dimanche, 29 avril 2007, 19:26 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 En effet, je ne vois plus de problème sur ce dernier saut de ligne.

Pour l'exemple d'infocom il faut aussi voir que le nom du lieu est en gras, cela reste donc très lisible. Mais cela se discute et j'admets que ma vue ne fasse pas l'unanimité (j'ai du mal mais j'y travaille) :)

Les doubles espaces, ça peut se défendre pour mettre en valeur la dernière ligne (celle qui liste les objets ou un événement particulier). L'inconvénient, c'est que s'il n'y a aucun objet à lister, on se retrouve avec deux espaces avant le prompt, et là ça casse tout.

La parole est au suivant :)
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Samuel Verschelde (stormi) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 20:13 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 Je passe la tâche au niveau "critique" car il faut vraiment qu'on tombe d'accord sur une mise en page commune avant la version finale.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Otto Grimwald (farvardin) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 20:42 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 oui ok.
Par contre est-ce qu'il y aurait possibilité de modifier la gestion des notification de flyspray, car cela me fait un nouveau message pour chaque modification, et c'est un peu lourd. A la rigueur juste pour un nouveau commentaire, mais un msg juste parce que la tâche est passé de 30 à 40 % de réalisé + 1 msg pour l'assignation à qqu'un + 1 msg parce qu'un message a été posté, bref, cela fait un peu bcp...

Dans inform les noms de lieux sont en gras également. Moi je n'ai pas spécialement de préférence (enfin si je préfère avec une ligne entre le lieu et la première ligne, je veux dire je me rallierais à la tendance générale.). Pour le moment cela me semble pas mal cohérent, je fais surtout la chasse aux dernières lignes sans espace avant le prompt, là cela fait plus mal aux yeux que le reste. Ce qui me dérange un peu aussi c'est les paragraphes avant les noms de lieux, j'aime bien l'effet que cela donne avant de changer d'endroit, par contre c'est un peu moins lisible si le regard se porte immédiatement sur la ligne en gras pour avoir un repère visuel... Mais là je crois que l'on ne peut rien. On conseillera sans doute de ne mettre là que des remarques plutôt anodines, si elles risquent de passer à la trappe avec des joueurs pas trop vigilants.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Samuel Verschelde (stormi) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 21:08 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 (pour la question des notifications : je ne crois pas que cela soit réglable. On a le choix entre recevoir toutes les notifications pour une tâche, ou aucune).

Pour la question des sauts de ligne, je vais essayer de résumer les principales questions qui se posent afin que l'on puisse choisir tous ensemble en connaissance de cause :

0) Pour moi, quel que soit le choix final, il est important qu'il soit respecté dans l'ensemble du projet. J'ai quelques préférences personnelles que j'ai exposées, mais il est tout à fait possible de choisir d'autres conventions du moment que l'on reste cohérents.

1) Nombre de sauts de ligne après le "prompt" : soit aucun, soit un. En général, j'ai plutôt vu "aucun", et c'est d'ailleurs le comportement par défaut d'inform (tous les messages de la bibliothèque sont affichés sans saut de ligne avant) et de la plupart des jeux que j'ai pu tester. Ma préférence va plutôt à cette solution. Mais le point de vue "mettre un saut de ligne après le prompt" peut se défendre. Si c'est cela qui était choisi, il faudrait alors modifier en conséquence les bibliothèques afin qu'aucun message ne soit affiché sans sauter cette ligne (cela me semble réalisable). Sur ce point, il n'y a pas encore de cohérence dans le projet lieux communs.

2) Nombre de sauts de ligne avant le "prompt" : sur ce point je crois que tout le monde est d'accord pour choisir la solution "un saut de ligne systématique avant le prompt", qui améliore la visibilité du prompt. Cela correspond à la "norme".

3) Nombre de lignes entre la description du lieu et la description des objets : 0, 1 ou 2. Si je me souviens bien (je peux me tromper), la norme est plutôt à un saut de ligne. Dans le projet lieux communs on a souvent deux sauts de ligne, ce qui pour moi pose problème lorsqu'il n'y a aucun objet à afficher, car cela fait alors deux sauts de ligne avant le prompt au lieu d'un seul, donc rupture de la cohérence. Mais si la solution "deux lignes" est retenue, cela doit pouvoir se coder d'une manière ou d'une autre, donc la question reste ouverte.

4) Nombre de lignes entre la description du lieu (ou des objets s'il y en a) et les petites phrases d'ambiance (ces descriptions souvent aléatoires qui viennent s'ajouter à la fin. Je pense que nous sommes d'accord pour un seul saut de ligne après la description des objets, mais s'il n'y a pas de description des objets, nous avons le choix entre 1 et 2 lignes après la description du lieu. Je penche pour 1 seul, mais là encore la question est ouverte.

5) Nombre de lignes avant et après le nom d'un lieu (qui est en gras) : 0 ou 1 avant, 0 ou 1 après. Je n'ai pas d'avis tranché sur la question.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Schneller (Eriorg) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 22:49 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 Mon avis :

0) Oui, tout à fait : c'est important de rester cohérents.

1) En effet, je viens de regarder quelques jeux en anglais et j'ai plutôt vu "aucun", sauf avant les noms de lieux (cf. question 5). Je n'ai pas vraiment de préférence personnelle, toutefois.

2) Oui, un et un seul saut de ligne avant le prompt.

3) Surtout pas 0 ! Ce serait vraiment peu lisible d'avoir les objets collés à la description. Et je préfère, là encore, un et un seul saut de ligne entre la description du lieu et celle des objets.

4) Là encore, un et un seul saut de ligne.

5) Dans les jeux en anglais que je viens d'essayer, j'ai l'impression que c'est toujours un saut de ligne avant le nom du lieu (même quand ça vient juste après le prompt !) et aucun après. Je ne sais pas si c'est le mieux, mais pourquoi pas ?
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Otto Grimwald (farvardin) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 23:06 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 je pense que l'on est plus ou moins d'accord. Je ne suis pas non plus pour les sauts de plus d'une ligne, sauf comme j'ai dit si c'est pour un effet spécial, en ce cas de plus de 3 lignes par ex.
Deux lignes cela ne rend pas super, mais s'il en reste cela ne sera pas un drame non plus, surtout si c'est pour éviter pas de saut de ligne avant le prompt.
Reste à savoir quoi faire pour l'espace après la ligne en gras ou le prompt. Moi je suis plutôt pour une ligne après la commande tapée, et je crois que JB avait initié cela également. Reste à avoir son avis sur la question. Pour ma part cela ne me dérange pas s'il n'y en a pas, cela sera peut être plus standard par rapport à la norme.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Otto Grimwald (farvardin) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mardi, 08 mai 2007, 23:11 GMT
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Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Samuel Verschelde (stormi) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 mercredi, 09 mai 2007, 11:58 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 Il faudrait porter ces questions devant JB qui est grand amateur de sauts de ligne :)
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Samuel Verschelde (stormi) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 vendredi, 11 mai 2007, 18:06 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 Bien, suite au retour de JB sur le forum, je résume donc la position qui semble faire le consensus le plus large :

1) Pas de saut de ligne après le prompt.

2) Un saut de ligne avant le prompt, et un seul.

3) Une seule ligne entre la description du lieu et la description des objets.

4) Une seule ligne avant les descriptions supplémentaires "d'ambiance"

5) Un saut de ligne avant le nom d'un lieu, mais aucun après.

Pour le point 5 j'ai repris la proposition d'Eriorg car personne n'a proposé autre chose, mais on peut encore le discuter si besoin.
Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 9 Commentaire de Schneller (Eriorg) - Deprecated: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 10 Strict Standards: Non-static method Filters::noXSS() should not be called statically in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 622 vendredi, 11 mai 2007, 21:33 GMT
Deprecated: Non-static method TextFormatter::render() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data/web/b2/9a/f2/informfr.tuxfamily.org/htdocs/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php(120) : eval()'d code on line 35 Ça me paraît bien.

Pour le point 5, je n'ai pas de préférence particulière, hein ! C'est juste que j'avais vu que les jeux en anglais en Inform faisaient en général comme ça, dirait-on. Mais si vous préférez autre chose, pas de problème.

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